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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:27 am 
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Can anyone identify what is going on with the sun?
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Yes...it's the solar maximum rearing its head..finally...after an unusual calm run...heading now towards its peak in 2012...the real weather catastophe's are here..as in Britain's 1,000 year flood happening right now..folks..it's here.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:17 am 
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The image is from STEREO Ahead Coronagraph intruments. I'm not sure about the 'streamer' to the bottom left, but the rest of the image is normal.
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Yes...it's the solar maximum rearing its head..finally...after an unusual calm run...heading now towards its peak in 2012...the real weather catastophe's are here..as in Britain's 1,000 year flood happening right now..folks..it's here.

Um... would that be the solar maximum that still isn't giving decent sunspots? The one with the extremely low solar flux, the very slow solar wind & so few spots it appears indistinguishable from a solar minimum?
Solar activity remains at very low levels. It looks like Sunspot 1032 is fading and Sunspot 1033 remains fairly small as well.

From the Space Weather Prediction Center

Updated 2009 Nov 20 2201 UTC

Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity

SDF Number 324 Issued at 2200Z on 20 Nov 2009

Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 19/2100Z to 20/2100Z: Solar activity has been at very low levels for the past 24 hours. Region 1033 (N21E23), a Bxo-beta, has continued to grow in size and sunspot number. Region 1032 (N16W03), a Bxo-beta, has shown a slight decay in spots and area. No flares were observed.

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be at very low levels with a slight chance for a C-class flare.

Geophysical Activity Summary 19/2100Z to 20/2100Z: The geomagnetic field has been at quiet levels for the past 24 hours.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be unsettled with a slight chance for an active period on day one (21 November) due to a recurrent coronal hole high-speed stream. Conditions are expected to be predominantly at quiet levels for day two and three (22-23 November).

You should spend less time believing the media & press & more time looking for the original data - the media have agendas.

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Quoted by Journeyman,

" Um... would that be the solar maximum that still isn't giving decent sunspots? The one with the extremely low solar flux, the very slow solar wind & so few spots it appears indistinguishable from a solar minimum?"

Well it looks to be getting active to me, sometimes its best to go with your gut.


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"You should spend less time believing the media & press & more time looking for the original data - the media have agendas."


I DO research credible sources.....like NASA...spaceweather.com everyday! The sunspots are increasing, and if YOU followed the science, then you would know that the less sunspots, the more radiation gets to earth because the sun's electromagnetic field is weaker...I'm sure I read more science-based material than you think, so please be careful with the innuendos.


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luchethel wrote:
"You should spend less time believing the media & press & more time looking for the original data - the media have agendas."


I DO research credible sources.....like NASA...spaceweather.com everyday! The sunspots are increasing, and if YOU followed the science, then you would know that the less sunspots, the more radiation gets to earth because the sun's electromagnetic field is weaker...I'm sure I read more science-based material than you think, so please be careful with the innuendos.

OK, sorry, it was a bit more pointed comment than I meant. I'd just come from jousting on another forum & was probably a bit more feisty than you deserved.

But that radiation isn't coming from increased Sun activity - it is more that the lowered solar 'pressure' & flux allows more GCR's in to reach the Earth. Svenmark has some interesting work on it & (not sure if it got completed) CERN was running a program called CLOUD to measure it a while back.

The tangling of the Earth's magnetic lines has been happening for some time - it may be more due to the strange activity in the Solar magnetic field combined with odd things occurring within the Earth's magnetosphere. Perhaps the slow decline in field strength around Earth is finally at the point where stray field lines from elsewhere can interfere.

A while back the observers got a bit of a shock at where a hole opened up, another when they saw a hole of unprecedented size & yet another when they found a magnetic reconnection event occurring every 8 and a bit minutes - a VERY strange period, as we are 8 and a bit light minutes from the Sun.

1033 is still there but 1032 seems to have gone & 1029 didn't survive as a spot producer. The 'increase' in activity is only noticeable because the Sun has been so strangely quiet over the past two years. They have been numbering spots that, a decade ago, wouldn't have got a number because they barely survive long enough to be counted. I'm pretty sure that, were we using the instruments they had back in the 1600's we'd be calling it 2 years of zero spots & there'd be a lot more official concern about something like a Dalton or Maunder event.

Solar flux has been above 80 once in that time from memory & is currently in the low 70's. Ham radio guys have practically given up on seeing the VHF open up again. :lol:

There's a lot going on out there, most of it unprecedented, but I honestly don't see it as being a ramping up Sun. Tomorrow might bring an explosive event to change it all but as things stand, at the moment we're standing observing, scratching our balls (or other parts :)) saying, 'WTF???'

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