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Will U and your family take the Swine Flu vaccine this fall if your gov. tells you to do so?
Yes!...I will take the Vaccine as I believe they are beneficial! 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
No!....I will not take the Vaccine as I am fully aware that Vaccines are harmful! 80%  80%  [ 40 ]
I have yet to make up my mind but will change my vote once my decision is made. 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
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"Dr. Laibow explains how about 25% of troops deployed to the Gulf War were injected with Vaccine A, which led to Gulf War syndrome - a lethal attack on the immune system on the body.

The ingredient of Vaccine A that triggered this syndrome is called squalene. According to Dr. Laibow, the amount of squalene present in the swine flu vaccine is over 1,000,000 times that of Vaccine A.

If you receive this vaccine she states the consequences would be: swollen and immobile joints, plummeting energy level, headaches, un-soothable rashes , fevers, weakness, gastrointestinal problems (vomit, diarrhea, cramps), memory loss, loss of intelligence, and dementia.

In short, swine flu vaccine will cause an invasion of the body by its own immune system. "
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...and this reaction is called Cytokine storm..it's believed that this response was the single largest reason why so mnay died during the 1918 Pandemic,BUT of course you will NEVER hear this term when speaking of the 1918 Pandemic...unless you do some research! :wink:


Swine Flu's vaccine's devastating ingredient - Squalene

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SEBELIUS FORGETS TO MENTION THE $415 MILLION SPENT ON SQUALENE ADJUVANT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qc8pi7d9KM


Kathleen Sebelius keeps quiet about the $415,210,470 million she has spent on the bulk oil and water adjuvant squalene earlier in July (see link below). Which was part of a $884 million order to purchase additional supplies of two key ingredients for potential H1N1 vaccine to further prepare the nation for a potential resurgence of the 2009 H1N1 virus.

That is a lot of money to spend after only 429 swine flu deaths worldwide.

HHS ( Department of Health and Human Services ) ordered nearly $1 billion of the deadly adjuvant squalene in July 2009 for use in the H1N1 flu vaccination-
http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2009pre

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H1N1 VACCINE KILLS 25 IN AMERICA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY86t2gB ... re=related


..are you guys getting this?...can some of you understand why I think this may be the beginning of the next American Revolution???..this kind of implementation will not work!..THEY are ready to push you to the end.
You need to get informed America!


The Vaccine is Tainted and I pity everyone who doesn't this fact!...I will tell member's of this forum the same thing I told the other member in the other forum...I have a contacxt within the Canadian military,he warned my friend that there would be Swine flu Vaccine coming this Fall and that we are NOT to take it as the Vaccine is Tainted and would end up causing more harm than good!!!


I'M NOT FULL OF BS!...and I'm not saying this scare anyone out of taking it...that is your choice,a rather unfortunate one,but one that I will respect and simply chalk it up as "a person who has refuse to read and watch all the material presented".

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Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... erica.html

A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.
The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.
GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.
The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.

It refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when: only 1 person died from the swine flu while the other deaths were caused by reactions to the Vaccine.








Half of GPs refuse swine flu vaccine over testing fears



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... fears.html


Of the GPs surveyed, almost a third said they would not have the swine flu vaccine because they did not think it had been through sufficient safety trials

Of the GPs surveyed, almost a third thought the swine flu vaccine had not been tested enough

Up to half of family doctors do not want to be vaccinated against swine flu.

GPs will be first in the line for the jabs when they become available but many will decline, even though they will be offering the vaccine to their patients.

More than two thirds of those who will turn the jab down believe it has not been tested enough.
Most also believe the flu has turned out to be so mild in the vast majority of cases that the vaccine is not needed.
Last night Government experts criticised GPs who decide not to have the jab, saying they will put vulnerable patients needlessly at risk.
A week ago, a poll of nurses showed that a third would turn down the opportunity of being vaccinated against swine flu.
News that medics are unconvinced by the need for a vaccine will cause grave concern to patients who will be invited for the jab over the next few months.
A poll of doctors for Pulse magazine found that 49 per cent would reject the vaccine with 9 per cent undecided.

A separate survey for GP magazine found that 29 per cent would definitely opt out of having the jab, while a further 29 per cent were unsure. Just 41 per cent said they would definitely have the jab.
Of those who said they did not want to jab, 71 per cent said it was because of safety concerns.
Richard Hoey, editor of Pulse, said: 'The medical profession has yet to be convinced by the Government's whole approach to swine flu, with most GPs now feeling that the Department of Health overreacted in its policy on blanket use of Tamiflu.
'Inevitably, that has coloured feelings about the planned immunisation campaign.
'The view among many doctors is that the Government hasn't yet made its case for why such a huge vaccination programme needs to be rushed in for what seems to be an unusually mild illness.'
But Professor David Salisbury, the Department of Health's director of immunisation, told GP magazine that frontline health workers had a duty to themselves regarding vaccination.
'They have a duty to their patients not to infect their patients and they have a duty to their families,' he said.
The Pulse survey questioned 15 doctors, while GP spoke to 216.

The poll raised further questions over the Government's planned mass vaccination programme. The jab, currently being processed, will be fast tracked and will not be fully tested before it is administered to patients.


There are also concerns the jab can spark cases of Guillain Barre Syndrome, which can lead to paralysis and even death.

A mass swine flu vaccination programme in the U.S. in 1976 caused far more deaths than the disease it was designed to combat, and the Health Protection Agency watchdog has asked doctors to look out for cases of GBS when the vaccinations begin.
Earlier this month, Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson announced that the jab will be given to people in high-risk groups, such as those with asthma or diabetes, as well as health workers such as GPs and nurses.
Some 14million people will be covered by the first wave of the vaccination programme, with everyone else following over the next few months.The BMA is still negotiating with doctors over how they should be paid to give out the jabs. The union is demanding £7 for every injection.
A spokesman for the BMA said: 'The new vaccine has been thoroughly tested and we believe it should provide good protection against swine flu.
'It is important that doctors are among the first to be offered the vaccine as it will not only protect them but the patients they care for.
However, doctors like all individuals have the right to decide whether they are vaccinated or not."

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£27,000 swine flu bonus for GPs ? (who already earn £107,000)



Family doctors could see their salaries soar by £27,000 once a swine flu vaccination programme is in place
, the Daily Mail can reveal.

Yesterday they were trying to thrash out a deal which could see GPs paid £7.51 for every jab they give to patients.

They are also negotiating with ministers over their performance-related pay.


They want assurances they will not miss out on bonuses even if they have to cancel routine check-ups due to swine flu pressures - which has already started happening.
Every swine flu patient GPs inoculate will need two doses of the vaccine. With the average GP having 1,800 patients, that means a salary boost of just over £27,000.
This figure would give doctors a pay rise some 25 per cent above their usual salary of £106,000.
There are 33,000 GPs in the country and the vaccination programme will cost the NHS £900million in payments to them.
The Government is considering using school nurses to administer the vaccine in an attempt to keep down costs.
It will be up to each GP to decide how the money, which will go back into a practice, is spent.
Some doctors may decide to spend the money to cover extra staff costs but others could choose to pocket the cash.
And it has emerged the practice will get the money even though GPs themselves may not deliver the vaccine - the nurse may carry out the job on their behalf.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0V59bzRQZ

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£27,000 swine flu bonus for GPs ? (who already earn £107,000)



Family doctors could see their salaries soar by £27,000 once a swine flu vaccination programme is in place
, the Daily Mail can reveal.

Yesterday they were trying to thrash out a deal which could see GPs paid £7.51 for every jab they give to patients.

They are also negotiating with ministers over their performance-related pay.


They want assurances they will not miss out on bonuses even if they have to cancel routine check-ups due to swine flu pressures - which has already started happening.
Every swine flu patient GPs inoculate will need two doses of the vaccine. With the average GP having 1,800 patients, that means a salary boost of just over £27,000.
This figure would give doctors a pay rise some 25 per cent above their usual salary of £106,000.
There are 33,000 GPs in the country and the vaccination programme will cost the NHS £900million in payments to them.
The Government is considering using school nurses to administer the vaccine in an attempt to keep down costs.
It will be up to each GP to decide how the money, which will go back into a practice, is spent.
Some doctors may decide to spend the money to cover extra staff costs but others could choose to pocket the cash.
And it has emerged the practice will get the money even though GPs themselves may not deliver the vaccine - the nurse may carry out the job on their behalf.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0V59bzRQZ

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Swine flu will give drugs giant GlaxoSmithKline a £2.6bn boost


GlaxoSmithKline could reap a £2.6billion windfall from the swine flu pandemic, it emerged yesterday.

Sales of the drugs giant's Relenza inhaler, used to treat the symptoms of the virus, are expected to top £600million, boss Andrew Witty confirmed.

And this figure could be boosted by a further £1billion-£2billion once deliveries of vaccination for the H1N1 strain of the bug begin in September, according to analysts.
Glaxo looks set to be one of the major beneficiaries of the outbreak, which has claimed 31 lives in Britain, but Witty denied Europe's biggest pharmaceuticals company had been gearing up to cash in on people's misery.

'We are not trying to generate some crazy level of profit,' he said following the release of second quarter results.

'Equally, our shareholders wouldn't want us to do it for anything other than a return. We have tried to strike a balance.'
In rich countries such as the UK GSK is charging £6 a jab, which is said to cost as little as a pound to manufacture.
However, developing nations will pay much less for the medicine, Witty said.
The company is also donating 50million doses of the vaccine to the World Health Organisation, which will then pass it on the poorest nations.
Britain has committed to buying 60million doses of the vaccine from GSK and the company has firm orders from 15 other nations taking total orders to 195million

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/articl ... z0V5KALJNm

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Just one in 10 NHS staff willing to have swine flu vaccine putting patients at risk

Patients could be put at risk because as few as 10 per cent of NHS staff may volunteer to have the swine flu vaccine, managers warn.

Doctors and nurses are shunning the jab because they believe the virus is mild and there is only a slim chance they will get the disease.


But NHS bosses say their reluctance could lead to needless deaths during the expected second wave of the disease as staff pass the virus on to frail patients and those with compromised immune systems.And if staff are unprotected from another onslaught of the bug, sickness rates could lead to cancelled operations.

The situation has forced the Department of Health to order all NHS organisations to ensure frontline staff get immunised against the disease.

A poll by Pulse magazine showed that 49 per cent of GPs would reject the jab; and last week a Nursing Times survey showed that 47 per cent of nurses were definitely not going to have the jab, while just 23 per cent said they definitely were.

Ian Dalton, the NHS's national director of flu resilience, has told chief executives and boards to maximise the number of workers having the jab.

He wrote in a letter: 'We all know that uptake of the seasonal flu vaccine among NHS staff is traditionally low.

'It is an NHS board responsibility that we do not find ourselves in this position with the swine flu vaccine.'

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..oh!...and BTW,...REMEMBER last year when Travelers were being held in Quarantine around the world....
" Swine flu: Up to 160 Britons held in quarantine overseas"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0V5LKRnKz

..well now that Obama has Declared a National Emergency in the USA over the swine flu...how long will it be before other countries follow suite???...and if they do...will they start holding people in Quarantine again this year???

My parents JUST called me to tell me they were leaving in their RV to travel through the USA down to Mexico...I begged them not to go but to no avail.

I believe anyone thinking about traveling abroad during the X-mas Holidays ought to think twice before leaving to another country!

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Hi connectingdots!

The way I look at it now is alot of the information out there against the H1N1 vaccination is not all truth in fact some of it is a bunch 'garbage' basically, I think.

You already know this but the ones who are at the highest risk are:

1) Health-care and emergency workers
2) Pregnant women
3) Children and young adults
4) Parents and caretakers of babies under 6 months old (since infants under 6 months have a poor vaccine response, the best defense is having parents who are flu free)
5) Adults ages 25-64 who have underlying medical conditions..... diabetes, asthma, and chronic lung disease or heart disease

From what I found the best comparison one can make is to compare it to the seasonal vaccines from the last ten years....which have been proven safe. I have not found one 'scientific' study that links autism to vaccines.......not one. And as far as the mercury-based preservative thimerosal, one can request a thimerosal-free version. Really though, it does not matter. The amount of thimerosal (which by the way is made of the ethylmercury(organic) not the methylmercury(which has been linked to neurological damage)) is minute. A can of tuna fish has four times as much mercury than in the thimerosal in the H1N1 flu vaccine. Everyone has a can a tuna once a year don't they? I have had alot more than that my whole life. I don't think that is really the issue it is almost like 'paranoia'. If your allergic to egg whites.....don't have the vaccine, simple...or consult your physician.

Children and young adults, who have none of the immunity to the strain are the ones that I am worried about. By reading all of the information the trends suggest that thousands of young lifes are at stake here. That is based on science and observation. I was just reading about Bill Maher(whom I do like..most of the time :lol: ). He said on Twitter: "If u get a swine flu shot ur an idiot." The sad thing is people are listening and taking the advice of the Bill Maher's out there rather than the true 'experts' in the field. The experts say that it is as safe as the seasonal flu shot and the benefits outweigh any risk of side effects. One's decision should be driven by facts and science not by 'advice' from people who are not experts. These people usually have no use for science, government, doctors.... or whatever......for whatever reason. :roll: Is there a risk?...of course there is. There is risk with everything...surgery, medical drugs etc.. The question is....does the benefits outweigh the risks? The risks here are minimal compared to what the benefits are. Just my opinion. Char :)

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More media hype.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1213765.shtml?cat=1

Health Officials Discuss Next Steps For Handling H1N1

The number of Minnesotans sick with H1N1 and how hospitals are responding is now at a level the state has never seen before.

Children's Hospitals have already expanded emergency room operations. As hospitals face ever increasing case loads, there are state-level talks about what happens next.

With a recent spike in serious cases of H1N1, the pandemic in Minnesota has entered a new phase.

"Right now when we look at the number of cases that we're seeing hospitalized, numbers reported from schools, we're really in an accelerations phase," said Kris Ehresman from the Minnesota Department of Health.

The Minnesota Department of Health is tracking a steep increase.

"From last spring we had 250 hospitalizations. In September we had 500 hospitalizations," said Ehresman.

Day to day, numbers show the emergency room case load is up.

"Children's emergecy departments just this last week, continue to see all time record high volume of patients. We were a few days, well over 200 patients a day in both St. Paul and Minneapoils emergency departments. Those are record numbers," said Patsy Stinchfield from Children's Hospitals.

As caseloads continue to rise, the Department of Health says talks have begun about activating overflow contingencies.

"There is a real demand out there, and so I do think it's possible that we will need to go to some of our alternative measures to meet people's needs," said Ehresman.

One possibility is a hospital system, where the community could open a 'flu-only' clinic.The Department of Health is monitoring the situation and says it's possible we could see that happen as early as next week.

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http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1211332.shtml


Minn. Hospital Administrator Dies After Getting H1N1

WASECA, Minn. (AP) - The 54-year-old administrator of the Waseca Medical Center has died after being diagnosed with the swine flu virus. However, an official cause of death has not been determined.

A news release says Mike Milbrath died Saturday night at Immanuel St. Joseph's Hospital in Mankato. He's survived by his wife and three daughters; and his parents.

Milbrath joined the medical center as the administrator in December 1995. He helped guide the organization to an affiliation with Immanuel St. Joseph's and the Mayo Health System.

A medical center spokesman had no information on whether Milbrath had any underlying medical conditions.

The Minnesota Health Department says there have been 10 confirmed deaths from complications from the virus, but other fatalities are under investigation.

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char wrote:
Hi connectingdots!

The way I look at it now is alot of the information out there against the H1N1 vaccination is not all truth in fact some of it is a bunch 'garbage' basically, I think.


Don't take offense but I've done sales for ten years+ of my life so I'm big on words.In this last sentence..you've just contradicted yourself BIG Time!...it may cost You your life..are you willing to gamble with your life that easy?

I'm NOT trying to push anything on anyone but I do want people to have a look at the facts before rushing off to get injected by some thing doctors won't take and neither will nurses....and That's ONLY the beginning of it.

There are SO many RED flags in this whole story...that one has to be a complete blinded fool to not be able to connect the dots to reality.

I strongly urge you to take some REAL time to yourself in front of the PC and watch my Youtube channel...I have just recently started gathering news footage to expose the truth! about the vaccine ingredients....YOU owe it to yourself to have access to view untainted information....I do daily searches for recently Uploaded videos regarding the swine flu...AND EVERY single day the same 2 videos keep popping up as first and second every time...BOTH those videos promote the vaccine!..coincidence???...I think not...the CDC has Hijacked Youtube now in an attempt to capture most of the hits!!!

This is getting ugly!...YOU need to get informed.

Good luck!...the Youtube channel link is just below.


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The question is....does the benefits outweigh the risks? The risks here are minimal compared to what the benefits are. Just my opinion. Char :)


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char wrote:
Hi connectingdots!

The way I look at it now is alot of the information out there against the H1N1 vaccination is not all truth in fact some of it is a bunch 'garbage' basically, I think.

You already know this but the ones who are at the highest risk are:

1) Health-care and emergency workers
2) Pregnant women
3) Children and young adults
4) Parents and caretakers of babies under 6 months old (since infants under 6 months have a poor vaccine response, the best defense is having parents who are flu free)
5) Adults ages 25-64 who have underlying medical conditions..... diabetes, asthma, and chronic lung disease or heart disease

From what I found the best comparison one can make is to compare it to the seasonal vaccines from the last ten years....which have been proven safe. I have not found one 'scientific' study that links autism to vaccines.......not one. And as far as the mercury-based preservative thimerosal, one can request a thimerosal-free version. Really though, it does not matter. The amount of thimerosal (which by the way is made of the ethylmercury(organic) not the methylmercury(which has been linked to neurological damage)) is minute. A can of tuna fish has four times as much mercury than in the thimerosal in the H1N1 flu vaccine. Everyone has a can a tuna once a year don't they? I have had alot more than that my whole life. I don't think that is really the issue it is almost like 'paranoia'. If your allergic to egg whites.....don't have the vaccine, simple...or consult your physician.

Children and young adults, who have none of the immunity to the strain are the ones that I am worried about. By reading all of the information the trends suggest that thousands of young lifes are at stake here. That is based on science and observation. I was just reading about Bill Maher(whom I do like..most of the time :lol: ). He said on Twitter: "If u get a swine flu shot ur an idiot." The sad thing is people are listening and taking the advice of the Bill Maher's out there rather than the true 'experts' in the field. The experts say that it is as safe as the seasonal flu shot and the benefits outweigh any risk of side effects. One's decision should be driven by facts and science not by 'advice' from people who are not experts. These people usually have no use for science, government, doctors.... or whatever......for whatever reason. :roll: Is there a risk?...of course there is. There is risk with everything...surgery, medical drugs etc.. The question is....does the benefits outweigh the risks? The risks here are minimal compared to what the benefits are. Just my opinion. Char :)

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if you've been reading the info I've been putting out...then you would know the term Ghost writing?..right?...you have been following the leads given right?...or are you trusting what THE EXPERTS on your TV have been telling you????
...do you NOT know WHO owns the networks??
and MSM ???

YOU need to start paying attention to INDEPENDENT research like the one from University of British Colombia,Canada on the effects of Skalene and Aluminum in vaccines....You have some catching up to do girl!!!!...you'd better hurry!
Dr. Chris Shaw: Neuron Damage Caused by Aluminum in Vaccines...Skalene?

...then you better have a REAL good listen to the
President of the National Vaccine Information Center,Barbara Joe Fisher has to say about the level of honesty of Big Pharma.

:| it's rather Disgusting!!!



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