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 Post subject: Re: DNA - Junk or Super Computer?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:25 pm 
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Did 'The Universe' show say anything about holograms? We appear to be living in one & our minds are holograms & there's speculation DNA is also. DNA processes reveal light under a spectroscope, a bioluminescence that was not only unexpected but for which we don't really have an explanation.

Perhaps if we learn to treat the body as information rather than matter, we might significantly compress the data needed to reconstruct. Then we just need to work out how to reattach the Being-field at the other end... *grins*


String theory :wink:
I'm not sure what you mean... Would you care to expand that a bit? I can see a connection into Quantum Foam & Consciousness but strings are a little different - are you implying strings might help with the tr4ansport situation or with the reattaching of being to body after the transition?


Well my mind is pleasantly stuck in the opinion that we may one day be able to travel without moving, string theory can explain the traveling (or non traveling) bit, so can we copy the consciousness and pin it to the body or are we already there on the other-side of the universe, perhaps its just a matter of switching one off to switch another on.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA - Junk or Super Computer?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:11 pm 
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GalacticEye wrote:
It is my understanding, or opinion, that all things great and small, are electromagnetic in origin. Fractal shapes and configurations, that began with an EM force, or spark if you will, that are infinite.
EM/ES=everything, and excludes nothing[jmho]

That's interesting. Do you have a concept for what constitutes EM? It's been a bit of a bug of mine that we complacently (not referring to you OK) bandy about concepts of the Universe being all about gravity, we invent magical forces like Dark Energy, Dark Matter & Inflation, but we ignore EM in the grand scheme of things. And under all that, nobody seems to actually know what any of them are. We describe effects, we manipulate them to do things for us, we build paper castles of theories on them but I've never seen a decent explanation of just what (say) Electric or Magnetic force actually is.

I guess my porblem is, I lean towards the Universe being a hologram. If that is so, EM here is possibly part of the hologram (which might explain why it is so strong compared to gravity) so I don't know if EM can be basic to everything.

But taking what you say, it occurs to me the thought... What if the hologram is being generated using EM? Like the Matrix, what if it is an EM field that produces the Hologram we live in? EM would then appear to be basic to all, wouldn't it?

The Hologram is a difficult concept to work with - how do we tell what is generated effect & what is basic to all? I lean towards quantum foam being basic, while from the LIGO evidence, perhaps strings are holograms.

And behind it all is the unanswered question - if this is all hologram, where is the original of which we are a hologram?

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 Post subject: Re: DNA - Junk or Super Computer?
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bcrofts2 wrote:
Well my mind is pleasantly stuck in the opinion that we may one day be able to travel without moving, string theory can explain the traveling (or non traveling) bit, so can we copy the consciousness and pin it to the body or are we already there on the other-side of the universe, perhaps its just a matter of switching one off to switch another on.

It's a possibility I guess. I think my opinion (backed by very little) is that Consciousness is a basic. I doubt we can copy it but we may be able to duplicate the rest. At base everything is nothing, just collapsed probability, but at anything higher it seems to be made up of strings, which, depending on configuration (*grins* And which theory you pick) can be either energy or particles. That implies to me that perhaps everything except Consciousness can be described as Information.

I recall seeing some works about how many bits it takes to describe basic particles, & they've even worked on how many of them are local & non-local. The theory was, if you can alter the bits of particles, you can at first level, convince particles around it that it is how you want them to 'see' it, then at the next level, you can convince the particle itself.

So I don't see anything wrong with the idea of instantaneous transmission that 'creates' an identical image of the body here. I remain unsure of how we'd get the Consciousness to flick across to it. It might be as simple as the fact the Consciousness has that intention & so it goes there, we might have to destroy the local copy so the Consciousness has nothing to hang on to, or it might not be feasible at all.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA - Junk or Super Computer?
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As far as capacity goes, it would depend on the system used I guess. Hologrammatic memory or storage would vastly change the capacity requirements, although the data encapsulation might be a bitch to work out *grins* Nature seems to have done it pretty well, but I'm not sure digital technology will cut it; we may need quantum computers for it.

So once we have the storage worked out, some interesting questions come up. See, if we are just Being/Fields attached to information, what happens if we duplicate exactly that information on a different medium? Would the Being/Field 'own' that as well? Might we wind up with a Being/Field that is aware in two places simultaneously? Might the Being/Field fission & create two of itself? Would, as in the slit experiments, the result depend on what was expected as a result?

I wonder what life would be like in the Hologram memory chip? Would we be able to tell the difference between that & what we are in now?

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 Post subject: Re: DNA - Junk or Super Computer?
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Great questions Journeyman. :)
Teleportation has been theorized in so many different frames, so multifaceted. Our genetic structure being the inhibitor, and the possible solution. :? We, having so many unused genetic codes, the possibilities are endless for the future evolution of mankind. If we further understand that EM force and waves can cause changes in our genetic structure, this furthers the possibilities....of expanded consciousness, telepathy, etc.
As far as EM/ES forces go, are we not made-up of charged particles? Is everything you see and feel, touch, not EM in nature? We spend many hours on the 'electro' half, what about the magnetic? Does gravity not seem like magnetism? We still have problems understanding photons, could gravitons be the opposing particles produced during creation? One seen[photon], and one felt?[graviton] :? Or...is there in fact no need for a graviton? Do all charged particles coalesce naturally? :shock: Brought together by their charged state, in a magnetic fashion?
Tesla, Einstein, Hawking, and Green....possibly a coalition of theories? :?

What would a boson in a jar be worth? :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: DNA - Junk or Super Computer?
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GalacticEye wrote:
What would a boson in a jar be worth?
I'll give you 3 Quarks & Meson for it... :lol:

If you'd like a diferent view on things, take a read up on the little we know about Ed Leedskalnin. Here's a guy (dead now unfortunately) who had a different theory - from what little he left, he thought there is no such thing as electric force, just magnetic. It would be easy to dismiss the guy but for one not-so-little fact - he used the theory to single-handedly move hundreds of tonnes of coral rock around to form Coral Castle.

Have a look at it on the Net. They had to fix his pivoting gate & it took a massive effort with all kinds of modern equipment to re-hang it & get it balanced - Ed did it by himself with very little equipment at all.

Also you could take a look at the ideas of James Clerk Maxwell - you might know of him from his basic theories of EM - but he had MUCH more. He died young & a guy by name of Heaviside edited out all the good stuff involving the 4th dimensional causes etc. Not sure why.

I'm not saying EM isn't paramount in this Reality - I think it is very much underrated as causative, particularly when we can look out in space & SEE EM effects on a Light Years scale. It's just that, EM being so much a part of this plenum, it seems difficult to also have it as part of the underlying stratum.

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