December 21 2012

I wanted to read one of his books. The two that seemed interesting (The 12th Planet and The end of days) or are one of the others a better choice
Those that have read his books, I would love to get your suggestions.

Moonbright

I bought The 12th Planet about 15 years ago. It is a detailed story of the Annunaki from Nibiru, their genetic engineering of humans, ancient nuclear wars and, of course, a global deluge. I found it heavy going first time as it introduces many people/aliens and places I'd never heard of previously.
Sitchin calls Nibiru the 'Planet of the Cross', in that it supposedly crosses Earth's orbit as it passes by on it's own 3600 year comet-like orbit.
My copy is once more on loan to Lord knows who.

I then found Graham Hancock's "Fingerprints of the Gods" and found it more readable than Sitchin and expounded on his work. "Fingerprints.." also went on loan, never to return, so I bought the enhanced 2nd edition to replace it. And I've recently bought "The End of Days" although yet to read it.

The main problem is that both these writers rely on a healthy dose or six of supposition and conjecture. Funny how Sitchin is one of but a few able to read ancient Sumerian cuneiform writing. How would we know he didn't invent the entire thing? We wouldn't. Let the reader beware (of BS).

You're right sorrow, Sitchin could be imagining the whole thing. I do find it interesting how many of the ancient seals from that region have some peculiar objects on them though. The one with a tree and a missile of somr sort in the distance comes to mind.

I've read most of that series of books and was impressed with how thorough his tale is. If nothing else it's a good mental exercise.

There is absolutely no proof that Stitchin knows what he's talking about. Like you said, how do we know he didn't invent the whole thing?? His books are pure fiction and he's milking it for whatever he can. I read his work like fiction. Nice story, but who else can vouch for his translations? He writes fairy tales. Read it for your own pleasure, but don't accept his writings as factual.

I wouldn't go so far as to call it fiction. It is speculative in nature, meaning there is no real proof one way or the other. It is intended to make a person think which the Earth Chronicles does quite well.

If it isn't one hundred percent factual, how does one explain fossilized shoe soles found in sedimentary stone? Or gold chain found in a coal seam... polished concrete blocks in a coal mine in MO? Ingots of silver in the ancient style of a bell shape, in newly opened coal mines? Threaded screws inside granite blocks?

These are anomalous finds from all over the planet that no one can explain, but they exist.

What about the fossilized human shaped foot prints in Glenrose Texas? (They would be in the Paluxy river bottom)

There is a mysterious iron pole that is sticking out of the ground in in India, I think Dehli, I could be wrong on the city.

There is no requirement to believe any of these documented finds as being real. Just as there is no requirement to believe Sitchin is not imagining things.

I would remind all of you that just because you don't believe what Sitchin has said, calling it a great story and work of fiction, does not mean that he does not have the knowledge or the understanding of the Sumerian Culture and their writings. You're basing your information on what Heiser has said about Sitchin, who is a known "debunker" and jealous of Sitchin's work and popularity.

Saying that Sitchin is not or could not be right is like saying that there is no air to breath. Come on folks, open your minds. Tunnel Vision will make you see less of the world that is out in front of you.

Here, here HM

Could these Book writers just be trying to satisfy our wild imaginations by writing all these fantastical storys ??

Do they believe this ? Why ?
Proof ? How ?

Bet they get rich off our interested minds.

Unless they have superior knowledge of things to come , I can't help but wonder if they are out to feed our imaginations and get rich at the same time.

I can't answer this question.

"You're basing your information on what Heiser has said about Sitchin, who is a known "debunker" and jealous of Sitchin's work and popularity". quote HM

I don't know who Heiser is. Never have read anything by him. I'm basing my opinion on the evidence. There is no proof Stitchen can translate the sumerian writings into English. And I'm not jealous of his work or popularity. It's just opinion. As for making money off this, I agree to an extent. Supply and Demand. People want answers and authors provide their own insights (sometimes based on fact and sometimes not). I guess there is money to be made from 2012. Have you noticed all the goodies you can order on the face page of this website?

Latina, he says in the forward of his books that the conclusions he draws are from his own and others translations. He also admits that he is proposing a theory.

Fact is, the man can and does speak several languages as well as able to read ancient coptic, sanskrit and is probably pretty good at interpreting petroglyghs. I wouldn't presume to say there is no proof that he can or can't do these things. Evidently he managed to get a doctorate in archaeology in his mis-spent youth.

For someone that doesn't know who Heiser is, you are parroting him quite well.

You are right though, he could be dead on accurate in his suppositions and have managed to write a drier text than he did. Then people wouldn't be buying it and reading it.

If he is wrong on several points, doesn't make him wrong on others.

Think of it as an English literature test when you were in school. You remember the one where you only got an 85. Did that make you completely wrong and incapable of expressing the meat of the text you were tested on?

I don't think so.

Hi G7998,
I was agreeing with Glenda's opinions.

Glenda,
Your points are right on. My sentiments exactly.

I wonder if moonbright ever bought one of Sitchins books? I have read all Sitchins books. I'm a fan.

Sitchin has opened up the way we think about our ancient past.
You have to have an open mind when reading his theories. He does gives us answers to many of the worlds religious mysteries. Anyone interested in where we came from then Sitchin is your man.

I am a fan, also, and have been since about 1996. NiBiRU is called "The Planet of the Crossing." The Earth is called the "World of the Cross" by the Most Highs of Edentia and the Urantia Book. I have all the books of the Earth Chronicles series and have read them all and I think Sitchin's work is awesome especially when you consider that YHWH calleth the Elohim sons of the Most High, the God of Bread and Wine and Tithing, Our God of the Church. It is awesome to know that we, and those that made us, have the same God, the same "maker" as it were. He made the Elohim and brought them here to make us because He made the Creation to save sinners, us. When you marry the Sitchin stories to the Urantia Book then you start to get the whole picture of what was going on and why the Elohim were really here and what their purpose really was for the God Most High. Blessed Bee. The zechariasitchin.com site has been brought back and there is information there about the Urantia Book-Annunaki Connection.
I have been on a 15 year Spirit led study that took me from the Bible to Zecharia's Earth Chronicles Series of Books, then to the Urantia Book and then to the Kaballah and the Tetragrammaton and the Sefiroth, which it turns out are the same thing. To know the Tetragrammaton all you need to do is stand it up next to the Sefiroth and compare the two. The Godhead is the Trinity and is the First Letter, the Second Letter is Mercy (EL) and Justice (DIN) Father EL and Allfather ODIN, then the Third Letter is Jesus, Grace, that represents the Godhead to us, then the Fourth Letter is the Church and the Kingdom to come, the Kingdom of the Father and the Son. Jesus is the Cornerstone that locates the Foundation, the Church, and the Kingdom is built on the Foundation. Also I've learned the relationships of some of the other Houses of Deity with the Tetrgrammaton. The Viking gods turn out to bee the House of Justice for the Minister of Mercy (MoM) of the Paradise Trinity and Beth EL is the House of the Lofty, Kindly, Merciful Father EL (Charist) Christ that went Allmighty EL Shaddai (YHWH) to get us blessings and EL ELYON, God Most High, to get us Salvation.
IA (YAH) the Light of Father EL went up to bee Most High and the Fire (SHIN BT) stayed down to bee the Allmighty. "The Light shines in Heaven and the Fire burns in Hell." The Fire is Allmighty and the Light is Most High. Both are the same God, Christ, that went to bee Christ the Lord Our Salvation God Allmighty God Most High Shaddonai (Shaddai Add on ai). The Light IA (Yah) and His Son SHUA, the WAY, are our Salvation, and the Allmighty is our God of Blessings, and our God of Salvation is One of our Blessings from Our God of Blessings so we have the God of Blessings (Milk and Honey) and and Our God of Salvation (Bread and Wine) given to us by Our God of Blessings. Salvation is a Blessing. Blessed Bee the Christ the Lord God Allmighty. Amen.

I hope people come back to this thread because it could be a very interesting thread with the Story of Billy and His Elohim, and the Urantia Book of the Most High, and YHWH God of the Hebrews, EL SHADDAI of Beth EL, Our Father EL of Beth EL that went Allmighty to get US Blessings and Most High to get US Salvation for to bee Our God of Blessings and Salvation. Blessed Bee the Blessed Bee, the God Blessed, Beeloved, Bee u T ful Bee EL J T, the Lord God Jesus Christ Allmighty Most High Shaddonai. The God of the Mountain of the Allmighty Most High went Shaddonai, My Shadow n' AI, Shaddai n' His Shadow, the Shadow of Shaddai, Shaddai and the Add On Ai, SHADDAI ADDONAI. Amen.

Stichin or no Stichin, something out there is affecting the gravitational pull on the planets, I have observed this on my telescope. I have an optical telescope mounted in a fixed position, and controlled by computer. The coordinates have changed to some stars I have been monitoring. The 8.8 earthquake probably knocked the coordinates off a bit because of the axis change, but there something tugging on the inner planets and stars orbit.