December 21 2012

Hey, Chris! That is no surprise to me. I've been listening alot to Jessica Murray over at Mother Sky and at Conscious Media. She has spoken at length about 2012. You might like to listen to her at www.consciousmedia.com. The archives are free to all to listen to.

Yeah, there is soooooo much information in our Birth Maps that it could take literally years to figure it all out. Astrology is in the process of an evolution as well as mankind. As we evolve so will our instruments of detection. We are still so in the dark about many things. Chris, have you heard about the 13th Zodiacal Sign? I've read a little about it and it is intriguing.

Keep researching that YOD of yours, but, most of all, LIVE it!!

Onward and upward we shall travel. Peace...........................

Hello, Laurie! I love your Map! Another Kite Chart and it is in Air. Awesome. Here we have 3 different people all with the Kite Configuration and in different elements. This could not have been planned better.

I have to say, Laurie, I was surprised by your bold language in your 2nd post .....being so young and all. But the Air Grand Trine tells the story.

Then you have a couple of T-Squares.... and that Pluto in Scorpio retrograde (appearing to go backwards through the sky) in the 1st H. A Scorpio Ascendant and that says alot about you! You are a powerful person ...but...you do not use it.

I have to say that your chart is fabulous and that you will travel to distant lands in the future (9th H with Jupiter and Mars here). You might even marry someone from another country.

Well, I have to go for now but I will be back to do more work. I have sooooo many Maps to study.

Peace........

Yes I've heard of the 13th zodiac sign. It's Ophiuchus. From what I've gathered it's between the signs of Scorpio and Sagittarius. I assume that 12/21/2012 has something to do with that sign because I know that the Galactic Center is commonly acknowledged to be in the sign of Sagittarius. It's a very interesting idea but I don't know how much credence to give it. I mean, I relate very well to what my chart says but the 13th sign would invariably changed the house sign of each one of our planets.


PS LR, do you use Chiron in interpretation? For entertainment I went made my chart with aspect lines drawn to Chiron today and I noticed that I also had a Mystic Rectangle configuration and (wide orb) Grand Cross configuration. I thought it was cool but haven't really used Chiron before so don't think it's fair to use it now that I see it creates some of the more interesting configurations, haha.

Thank you, Libra. As it happens I travel a lot and visit friends over the country whenever I have the money and chance to. And yes, I'm told I am quite a profound speaker for my age. xP

But hey! That's not fair. You left me hanging with:
"You are a powerful person ...but...you do not use it. "

Maybe you could do me a full reading if you get time in the future.

Thanks again,

onewing

Hello, Chris! I only interpret the House, Sign and stronger aspects made to Chiron. I think that one cannot get a complete picture of one's mission unless all things are taken into consideration. Like the Moon Phase, Part of Fortune, Chiron, Pallas, Ceres, Eros (and all the other asteroids), the Vertex, North and South Nodes, Angles. This, for me, is just like performing surgery.
The "patient" (Birth Map) must be prepped.
All the instruments for delienation must be counted and recounted. The environment must be sterile ( the mind unfettered by biases and prejudices) and the team assembled. Then the work of discovery and recovery begins.

I can see why some Astrologers become "specialists" in one area of the Chart interpretation.

Yes, it would change our charts but I beleive that as we evolve so do our methods of discovery. We are not allowed the leisure of complete "disclosure" through this study due to our position in 3rd density. We may come to understand many things about ourselves and our connection to everything but to look into a chart and say, "Aha! this is exactly what we are doing here and this is the reason why and this is who you were in your past lives." These kinds of discoveries will always elude us in our current state.

Just think about what man has learned about himself and his world since realizing that Neptune, Pluto and Uranus were part of his galaxy! These kinds of self discovery ( these planets were always there but we were not aware of them. I always laugh when I hear that scientists have discovered a "new" this or that. There is absolutely nothing "new") will never end and there will always be a necessity for readjustment to one's environment. As Jacque Fresco says, and I paraphrase here, "Nothing in nature is static."

Onward and upward.........Peace.

Hello, Onewing! I surely will as time permits. The holiday season is here keeping me busy along with a new soul (grandchild) due to arrive in a month and Ford, GM and Chrysler are teetering on the edge of that proverbial cliff keeping us in total suspense about the near future ( NOT! ).
We live in Michigan so you can kind of place a sure bet on what we are doing here for a living.

Anyway......I will help you but it might help more if you go back to the pages for the definitions of the Signs, Planets, Elements, and the like. Then look at your Map and see where you all of this is taking place; i.e. 9th House, 2nd H, 6th so on and so forth.

Also, what is it that you'd like to learn about yourself....specifically.

You have a phenomenal personality. I love your candor, Laurie.

Peace................

Are we ready to resume our learning yet? Where is everyone???

foreverlearning

Hello foreverlearning! I have been away for awhile (mentally and physically) and will be back shortly. My son leaves for the Middle East Sunday and I am focusing positive energy his way.

When you look in his Star Map you will see that this journey to distant lands is indeed his destiny. I may not like it but he has his North Node in Gemini and the 11th House to live.
May the positive manifestation of LOGOS be with him and all those who come into contact with him.

Will return next week. Please post ALL questions that need immediate attention. I will do what I can to answer.

Peace be with us all................

Ok, looks like I did not make it this week, but, next week I plan on starting with blulist's Map.

Hope everyone is finding that inner peace.

Great! I can't wait to get into this more on here. I picked up a couple books on astrology and have been trying to get a basic understanding. The books I found are Sydney Omarr's Day by Day Astrology Guide for Capricorn 2009 (I like that it isn't just horoscope stuff, it teaches how to read your birthchart and understand it) and Learning Astrology by Damian Sharp. I'm really fascinated by this and hope to understand it enough to use it.

thank you very much. i appreciate your work with all you have going on in your life. i send positive energy to you & your son!

Thank you for those sentiments, bluelist. Right back at you!

Foreverlearning, your name says it all. You will learn a new language and you will be able to help so many with this knowledge. I am glad that you have already started that Library. I highly recommend anything by Maurice Fernandez, Jeff Green, Erin Sullivan, Martin Schulman and Sue Tompkins just to start. Noel Tyl, Dane Rudyar, and Stephen Arroyo are also must reads. And of course the ubiquitos Liz Greene tomes!

OK....let's get started!

Bluelist has a YOD, or "Finger of God" in his Star Map. See the broken green lines connecting to the single blue line forming a triangle.

This "finger" is pointing to his Saturn in the Sign Aries and in the 7th House of Partnerships. So this "Finger" is saying, "Take your relationships seriously"! let's go with this theme and find other clues that point to the significance of his 7th house and partnerships.

Look at his North Node. ( I cannot express enough the importance of the Nodes. They tell us where we have come from in a prior life and where we are going [ destiny] in this incarnation.)

His North Node is conjunct his Saturn! NN in the last minutes of 16 degrees and Saturn @ 22 degrees in Aries.

This tells me that Partnerships are extremely important in this lifetime. With his Moon and Neptune making inconjuncts to his Saturn tells me that his relationship with his mother was somehow unfulfilling. Perhaps he spent a great deal of time away from her or his father kept him away from her. This sets him up to feel that he cannot totally trust women. That somehow they are deceptive in their motives towards him.

This Saturn in Aries needs to be # 1 in a partnership. The way to do this is through the development of the ego within partnerships and through the needs of the partner. When you serve the partnership through your will you develop a stronger sense of self. In prior lifetimes you relenquished your ego to partners for the sake of having a relationship. In this life you must take care to allow for your needs to be met through intimate partners. You can only serve the greater good of the group by developing a strong will and personal identity. You will find that it is more comfortable (South Node in Libra) to just let your partners take the lead rather than put yourself "out there". You don't want to make waves, just everybody "please get along". That won't work, bluelist, anymore. You have to assert your will, gently but firmly, through the venue of partnerships. Stand your ground and your partners will develop great respect for you and tremendous admiration. These "hard" aspects will allow for you to assert yourself more vigorously.

The Planet Mars is making a soft aspect (sextile) to this Saturn so here is more emphasis on partnering. This is a beneficial aspect allowing for the ease of initiating relationships in order to meet your destiny, bluelist.

Let us look at the more difficult aspects (the squares and oppositions) to see how your 7th House [Destiny in this lifetime] plays out.

Venus is the "love" planet, the planet of attraction and also of indulgence. Your Ascendant is in Libra so Venus is the Chart ruler making it very important. Your Venus is conjunct your Sun and Mars all in the Sign Gemini and the 8th House of inheritances, other people’s money, death and sex. This is called a Stellium of Planets making this house, and it’s themes, prominent.
This Stellium in Gemini is Squaring another Stellium in Virgo!

Okay, you have Uranus conjunct the Moon and Pluto in the Sign Virgo squaring all of this Gemini energy which probably causes much friction in your friendships (11th H) and intimate (8th) relationships.

You attract (Venus) other people’s resources (8th H). With Saturn on the Descendant it might indicate an attraction to a person of significant age difference……but with a youthful ( Aries) outlook and appearance! You probably also enjoy someone who is very active and quarrelsome. Someone who enjoys a good fight!

With your Mars squaring Pluto and the Moon this would definitely indicate arguments and fights with women. You probably argued quite a bit with your mom over property and joint resources. It does not look as though you carry this into your partnerships because Mars ties in to your 7th H with a soft aspect and Jupiter backs this ease up with a Trine to your Saturn. You have good fortune in relationships and they benefit the group as a whole. You have a significant number of friends and they are loyal to you as well as you to them. You enjoy discussing religion, philosophy and foreign travel with your friends.
Jupiter is making a square to Neptune in Scorpio and in the 2nd H. This might indicate that your hopes and dreams are unrealistic or that you have a difficult time realizing them. It can also indicate that your generosity might be taken advantage of. You could be swindled out of personal possessions by those who want to deceive you.
You have a big heart, where your friends are concerned, and, they sooooooo know this and take advantage of your uber generous nature, blue list.
With the Moon conjunct Pluto in the 11th House you might like to play the therapist ( Virgo) with your friends. You can get to the bottom of what ails them and yourself through this process. You literally feel their inner desires and hopes and want to help them transform their desires so that they better express the will of the group. You would make a wonderful therapist, blue list, or leader of a large organization. You are a benefit (Jupiter in Leo) to the group!

You have tremendous insight (Pluto in Virgo) into the world of taboos (8th H). You just want to clean(Virgo) the “dirty mind “ (8th H of sex) of the group(11th H) or maybe you just want to organize their finances for them! Seeing Gemini on the 8th though might mean the process has to start at “home”. Gemini is known for engaging in trivial and unworthy gossip and information. This could be an issue that you are working on diligently through your relationships(7th, 8th and 11th Houses) of all kinds!

You are a reformer (Pluto and Uranus in the 11th and Virgo) and arm chair therapist at heart, blue list. Perhaps that is what you are in “real” life.
Either way, with the emphasis on the relationship houses (7th, 8th and 11th) it is evident that you came to RELATE on ALL levels of intimacy.

Remember that Saturn (Planet of Karma, Maturation), the North Node (Destiny), and the 7th, 8th and 11th Houses( Majority of Planets) are the focal points of your Star Map and indicate what you have come to do on Planet Earth!

Relate responsibly, with great wisdom and maturity, and to serve the group at large through this wisdom gained from personal relationships.

I hope that this helped you, bluelist. If you have questions regarding this reading please feel free to post your query(ies) or comments!

There is plenty more to delineate but I will wait for questions.

P.S. with Mars and Mercury in the 9th H of higher education, foreign travel and religion (or spirituality) you might travel frequently for your job or marry (someday) someone from another culture. An advanced degree is something that you think about and possibly pursue …slowly (Saturn sextile) but surely….if you do not already have one.


Peace to you, bluelist!


*****had to edit due to omitting the influence of Uranus in the 11th H and the importance of the Aries NN in partnerships. Did not do it justice in last post*******

You seem to have your hands very full LibraRising. You clearly have a very giving heart.

When you get the chance (and really I mean at YOUR convinence) i wonder if you could read my chart as well?

Hippie Ninja! You are a Michiganer! I'm soooooooooooo sorry.
It's way too cold here this year is it not??? I've had to use the blow torch to defrost my feet this winter. It should be a crime to be so cold! ( Now there is a new source of Revenue for the State. Once we become the NAU Michigan can fine Canada for allowing it's cold to spill over it's borders!)

Why, I thank you for your kind thoughts. I think that I am the lucky one.

Of course, I would be honored to read your Star Map, Hippie Ninja!
You can do it yourself by going to astro.com and photobucket.com and then post your chart on the Forum.....Or you could just post your info here and I do the work for you.

Yes, it is evident that I have my hands full.......that is my Jupiter at work here ya know......always shooting for the Moon.....and beyond.

I look forward to seeing you around!

Namaste.............

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